Transcript – May First Week: Local Store Judging

10:02:36 am – Matthew Fox:
Hello everyone, and welcome to this first edition of First Week for the month of May. If you’ve been a judge for a while or even just, you know, once or twice, you probably know that one most important judge, skills is improvisation, you’ve got everything planned, you got a whole idea what’s going on and then you get to the store and the projector doesn’t work or They don’t have matched lips. So we’re actually it’s modern and you were so ready to judge draft? Well, we have a bit of that situation going on today, We’re really excited for make Rickman who’s an awesome judge and there’s a lot of work in a local store to be our guest. She unfortunately had something come up with the last minute was not able to join us. So improvising, Samantha Har and Nicolette, both from the Judge Academy staff. We’re able to step in and join us. And so we’re gonna have a great conversation today, about all of us. How to experiences local store, judges. All of us have experience helping to run, local stores are playing at local stores. And this is a topic I think with a lot of relevance to judges pretty much wherever you are because local Magic is kind of the bedrock of everything. So I’m Matthew Fox. They then pronouns. I’m the community organizer, the community champion for Georgia Academy and I will let my two guests introduce themselves. So nicollet starting with you.

10:03:51 am – You:
Okay, give it actually give us one second because the audio is a little low. I’m seeing in the chat.

10:03:57 am – Matthew Fox:
Okay.

10:03:59 am – Samantha Harr:
Like, I can go ahead in the meantime

10:03:59 am – Matthew Fox:
oh,

10:04:00 am – Samantha Harr:
then so we can get our audio figured out. I’m Samantha Harr and I’m the Communications Champion for Judge Academy. I have been a game store manager. Myself for a number of years at two different stores and I really, really love this topic. I am super bummed that Meg couldn’t make it today because she is an absolute expert at this kind of stuff, but hopefully, we’ll do her, you know, do her service here, do her justice to her vision as well.

10:04:27 am – Matthew Fox:
Definitely, definitely. I think should my I had I did not have my speaker probably set up so microphones. I think my audio should now be better, but let me know if we’re still a problem. Oh yeah. I’ll give kind of my introduction while we’re still figuring out the the technical side of things.

10:04:42 am – You:
Well, they can’t hear us.

10:04:44 am – Matthew Fox:
Okay.

10:04:45 am – You:
That’s where we’re trying to get audios set up.

10:04:49 am – Matthew Fox:
All right. Is my audio now better? Denizens of chat because I think I fixed my microphone issue.

10:04:57 am – Samantha Harr:
And can people hear me? Any luck here in Sama.

10:05:03 am – You:
All audios are functioning. Matthew is still low.

10:05:08 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, when you tell in New Yorker,

10:05:08 am – Samantha Harr:
And no.

10:05:09 am – Matthew Fox:
he’s too quiet.

10:05:09 am – Samantha Harr:
Oh, Sam is low.

10:05:09 am – Matthew Fox:
Something is very wrong.

10:05:10 am – Samantha Harr:
Okay?

10:05:16 am – Matthew Fox:
Not a little bit. How’s that testing? Testing testing. Draft is the best format draft is the best format come at me.

10:05:24 am – Samantha Harr:
I like sealed. I like sealed and modern.

10:05:26 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, feel the fun too. Okay, I’m still a little bit too low,

10:05:30 am – You:
Interesting.

10:05:31 am – Matthew Fox:
that’s that might be something to fix on that end. So I think I’m pretty loud on my end. Thank you all technicalities.

10:05:41 am – You:
Yeah, I appreciate your your patience while we get that. Figured out. We have, you know what? Why don’t I Do. A thing. I have an idea.

10:05:59 am – Matthew Fox:
How’s that? Miami? And Miami better.

10:06:03 am – You:
I think it’s, I think it’s actually the Google meet room.

10:06:08 am – Matthew Fox:
Got it.

10:06:09 am – You:
but,

10:06:09 am – Samantha Harr:
Hmm.

10:06:10 am – You:
That might also. Help with that.

10:06:12 am – Samantha Harr:
They’re saying better.

10:06:14 am – Matthew Fox:
Yep.

10:06:14 am – You:
Nice. And I am going to move the bracelet browser up a bit. So Matthew if you were you we might have overcorrected in order to also make Sama

10:06:26 am – Matthew Fox:
let’s I can turn down my gain pretty easily, so, Do I sound like

10:06:29 am – Samantha Harr:
I can.

10:06:29 am – You:
Yeah.

10:06:31 am – Matthew Fox:
New Yorker or do I sound like a regular person? Tell me, tell me. Tell me.

10:06:34 am – You:
How we doing?

10:06:34 am – Matthew Fox:
I say that. I say that Abs New Yorker.

10:06:38 am – You:
Amazing.

10:06:38 am – Samantha Harr:
It was great. Now I can scream if I need to I can just scream.

10:06:41 am – You:
I appreciate your all your patience friends not only is, are we, you know, kind of throwing this together but couple of other things. Eric, who has been Eric Dustin Brown who’s been amazing helping us with our productions is on his way back from Pittsburgh, from Scg Con. and so, I’m actually hosting this one with my Limited obs knowledge. So I really appreciate your patience as we take a moment to make sure all the audios and everything are ready. So I think we are good. Oh now I’m too low because I turned

10:07:19 am – Matthew Fox:
The.

10:07:20 am – You:
you all there because I was like I don’t want to be the biggest noise. That was me.

10:07:28 am – Matthew Fox:
Just you all can understand what’s going on. Basically, we are one round into the prerelease and event link or word, or whatever it is, has just totally crashed. So, we’re just throwing some

10:07:36 am – You:
So, would you?

10:07:36 am – Matthew Fox:
information around quick, um, but feel free to jump into the chat with kind of like, what’s been your experience? Local store? Judging have you been doing it? Have you, you going to a pre-pandemic? Has it been coming back? Would love to hear a little bit from you all? Maybe actually just start with kind

10:07:48 am – You:
Amazing.

10:07:49 am – Matthew Fox:
of just a quick. Yes No um how many folks have gotten to judge an event at a local store since the events the last couple years.

10:08:02 am – Samantha Harr:
Local store playing pioneer and drafts, that’s fun. I, I don’t think I’ve done any judged or played in any drafts since the

10:08:05 am – Matthew Fox:
Nice.

10:08:08 am – Samantha Harr:
played in any drafts since the pandemic began.

10:08:09 am – Matthew Fox:
Uh-huh. I’ve gotten to do.

10:08:11 am – Samantha Harr:
But that’s a tough one passing things to people, I don’t know.

10:08:14 am – Matthew Fox:
I got to do the first the my first time back in a local store, was just actually last weekend or two weekends ago for the pre-release. I got to do a pre-release, I got to do Two-headed giant with Rob McKenzie, who’s a judge who most of you all know which if you’ve never had the joy of watching.

10:08:28 am – You:
Oh man.

10:08:30 am – Matthew Fox:
Rob as a player, explain a judge ruling in good proper judge terms while also cackling with maniacal glee about how this means in advantage for him. It is a site worth behold. He did also explain some rules things that went against us as a team and two-headed giant, but the maniacal cackling is just on brand. I don’t know if that’s part of the L3 test, but it should be

10:08:52 am – You:
Cackling.

10:08:52 am – Samantha Harr:
I’m sure it goes a long way, the

10:08:53 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:08:54 am – Samantha Harr:
maniacal traveling.

10:08:54 am – You:
Yeah.

10:08:55 am – Matthew Fox:
You know, I think, I think it could be a maybe it’s an elective. All right. I think sound is probably good. Are we ready to get started now?

10:09:01 am – You:
Absolutely.

10:09:02 am – Matthew Fox:
Oh yes, King of the North 100%. All right, so taking that again, as I said, I’ve now just said a number of funny things about how we’re improvising, and I’m passing on to introduction. So I am myself, Matthew Fox, they then pronouns. I’m on staff here. Now at Georgia Academy before that. I worked for a couple of years, as the events manager for a local store in Wisconsin. And I’ve also done a lot of local store, judging and, and playing and other things with that. So samma, tell folks a little about yourself.

10:09:30 am – Samantha Harr:
Yeah, so hi everyone. I’m Samantha Harr, and I’m the communications champion here at Judge Academy. And before that, I have been a store manager at two different, local game stores, one WP, and premium store one regular WP in store and it’s been an absolutely fantastic experience. And that’s, that’s how I got into judging was by doing. That was by being a toe first and then learning how to judge. So,

10:09:53 am – Matthew Fox:
That’s great, that’s great. Nicolette

10:09:55 am – You:
Yeah, I am Nicoletta Prize. She her I am the program manager here at Judge Academy. I have moved around a lot and so I have never worked in a board game store. However, I have been playing at this point. Now regularly at in six, different states around the US. And obviously, whenever I’m in a new area, I’d like to explore the game stores that are there. But so I’ve gotten the, the nice perspective of getting to see things in Georgia, in New York, and Indiana in Wisconsin, in Oregon. In Washington, it’s been pretty awesome to see the different kind of atmospheres that are in each of the game stores. And I’ve been talking to our regional tournament organizers about organized play and what they’re doing for some of the rcq type stuff. So that’s been that’s been a lot of fun and nice to see

10:11:03 am – Matthew Fox:
That’s awesome. And I’m really glad you can bring that perspective because one thing we’ll be talking about today is that, you know, local store judging. It has always been a thing since way way back in Magic History and judging history. Obviously it took a real pause when local store. Magic just stopped, it’s been coming back slowly as different parts of the world, have different kind of levels of covid safety. of covid safety. announcement of all this new organized play that’s happening. A lot of local stores are starting to think. Oh, okay. Well, we can host these big events or maybe just people are gonna want to play more live magic Magic just stopped, it’s been coming back slowly as different parts of the world, have different kind of levels of covid safety. And the like but especially with the announcement of all this new organized play that’s happening. A lot of local stores are starting to think. Oh, okay. Well, we can host these big events or maybe just people are gonna want to play more live magic to get ready for the big events or whatever it is so nicely. I’ll be really glad you can bring that perspective in from hearing from those toes. But I want to start by talking about local George, Yeah. Local store judging itself because I think for a lot of folks, you know, that we think about judging the thing that comes to mind is, you know, judging at the pro tour judging and, you know, the big events and stuff like that, that’s what gets talked about a lot more on on social media and people post pictures I think it’s easy to forget that. I’m not gonna make up a number, but a huge amount of judging actually happens at the local store level, where should a huge amount of magic happens. And I’m curious for both of you as judges, but also as, as a to or a player, what’s been coming, your experience about? possible to run a Friday night magic Friday night magic without a judge, Of course, what, what’s the benefit of having a judge at certainly at competitive events? But even it kind of like a Friday night. Magic, what’s what’s the reason for having a judge it at stores for things like that? player, what’s been telling your experience about? Like I think it is possible to run a Friday night magic without a judge, Of course, what, what’s the benefit of having a judge at certainly at competitive events? But even it kind of like a Friday night. Magic, what’s what’s the reason for having a judge it at stores for things like that?

10:12:34 am – Samantha Harr:
Nicolette, you you have the best answer for this so you you can take this one first.

10:12:39 am – You:
Absolutely sure. So I’ve really enjoyed judging at stores from from the judge perspective. It’s really awesome to have. And from the player perspective, it’s really awesome to have somebody there. That’s kind of helping drive the ship. It’s There is a clear difference. At least I have experienced on events where it’s a Friday night magic. And there are two or three draft pods. And there is a judge that’s there in kind of facilitating. And when there’s not and you know that Judge is doing a lot of heavy work, lifting With getting some organized with logistics. In the past pre event, Lincoln Companion, obviously paper and trying to get matchlips and everything. But even now having somebody around and having somebody kind of guiding that process, really makes at least when I am playing. Makes me feel kind of seen as a player and taken care of, in a way that if I have to go up to the, you know, the point of service at at a store to ask a question to somebody, that’s just like a staff member that isn’t necessarily the judge of the event. I think it can be a little not intimidating but you’re you’re aware that you’re disrupting their business, it feels. And so having somebody that, you know, their primary role is to help facilitate that’s really helpful for asking questions and also not interrupting people that want to give the store money, right?

10:14:21 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think it’s so true. I, the first couple times I did organize magic. I went to, you know, places. Like you’re talking about where’s run by and you know, people can do, you can still do a lot from behind the counter and some people are both staff and judges. But Having that person who’s just there to just run the event. The first time I went to a store that had a judge for F&m. The way in which the person greeted me and kind of like checked in it was a draft night and kind of checked in how I was building my deck, I was so nervous I had no idea what was going on. I don’t think I would have gotten this is involved in magic because I have if that pertinent person hadn’t been doing as much as they were to make me feel welcome, you know? And and I could see they’re making everybody feel welcome. It was such a like the rules are important. The match lips are important but just that, you know, community feeling a judge can do matter so much.

10:15:06 am – Samantha Harr:
yeah, I super agree with that and from from my perspective of coming in as a to the first thing, I noticed as a term in organizer, when I was kind of thrown into all, this was Magic judges were the most helpful people in any room. I was standing in, like, if any

10:15:21 am – Matthew Fox:
Mm-hmm.

10:15:22 am – Samantha Harr:
they’d be running around, I wouldn’t even have to ask them to do stuff. That just be on top of stuff and it was a huge help to me when I was learning about magic and tournaments and all of this and it made me really It was really inspiring, I guess to see so much love and passion for the game. And I think that as a tio, as a player as an anybody in this community, Seeing a group of really dedicated individuals who you know want the best for all of us like in no matter what position you’re in, I think is really reassuring. And I think that that’s a strong foundation on which to build a community. I like knowing that there’s a person that I can talk to if I want to know something magic related and the store employee might not always I mean sometimes they do but it’s it’s nice

10:16:04 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:16:05 am – Samantha Harr:
to have that extra reinsurance. That that is a magic judge. That’s somebody that has has proven themselves in some very quantifiable way.

10:16:14 am – Matthew Fox:
Once. Yeah, but I love that. I’m curious, especially from the Teo perspective. What’s the benefit to the store of having that judge? Because one thing I think is that in a lot of cases if you’re if you’re living near a store they’re already wants judges like great definitely take advantage of that. But a lot of the situation, the judges can be in now is is reaching out to the store and saying, Hey, I’m a resource that you may not have known about and I want to show you that I can make your magic event better. What, what’s what’s the cake? Tell us how to make that case. What, what is it better for the store to have that judge there?

10:16:44 am – Samantha Harr:
So, this is one of those things that I learned through experience. Well before Judge Academy was even a sparkle in anyone’s eyes. That, you know, I started at my tio career as at a store that highly valued judges and, you know, would would hire above and beyond, you know, more judges than they even needed to because they loved judges so much. And I saw exactly why I was absolutely no mystery. Why? Like they were the foundation of that community, they were, they were our everything we loved our judges and When you, when you’re sort of. Placed into that. It may not be so obvious at first, what the difference is because like, it’s like, Oh, this is great. And I realize it’s great. But then, I mean, maybe I should like cover up my Judge Academy logo while saying this. I go to sometimes other stores and see that they didn’t have judges and they didn’t really hire judges or, you know, encourage judge culture. Like This is kind of ratchet. Like it just would be chaos. Like, it would be chaos. It wouldn’t be very welcoming. Nobody knew what was going on. Like it ended up being like the old boys club of people. This just isn’t cool. I don’t know. It just wasn’t. It wasn’t the experience for me.

10:18:00 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:18:01 am – Samantha Harr:
You know, which is it varies from person to person? We all have our different preferences but like the difference was absolutely night and day clear. Once I started venturing out of my own store and out of my own community to see how other community sort of handled their judge community,

10:18:19 am – Matthew Fox:
Hmm.

10:18:19 am – Samantha Harr:
Night and day difference.

10:18:23 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think that’s so important I think that’s one of the best things you can say to a store is helping them understand that at least as I see it, it’s not like, you know, the player who already walks in. Obviously that player walked in, they may not have known, there was a judge known, there was a judge there, but I think one of the best things that come back, you know, and part of it is just the logistical thing. Like if the round is is flipping over see it. player who already walks in. Obviously that player walked in, they may not have known, there was a judge there, but I think, one of the best things that judges do is help people come back, you know, and part of it is just the logistical thing. Like, if the round is, is flipping over in 55 minutes versus now, or in 10 minutes, that’s gonna make a big deal. You know, if the prizes are getting to straight, you’ve got someone who’s there. Who’s just handling the prizes who’s You know, it’s not a Nicola, you’ve made this great point. It’s not a great feeling to be like, wanting to report your match result, but you know that three people are waiting in line to buy Dungeons and Dragons books or whatever it is, which is definitely great thing by those from local stores. But, you know, having that person, there it for the logistics side for the, you know, rules question comes up, but also just yeah, for all of that community stuff. The creating a safe space that matters so much someone who can say, hey, you know, maybe that that conversation is not so great. Um, I just remember one of the first times I went back to a store that didn’t have a judge and I was a draft night and I sat down at a table and it was still covered with tokens and and, you know, pack rappers and you the glamor side of local store judging. I the first thing I was told is you know, what is the local store? Judge do more than anything else push and shares and pick up trash. Um, hopefully you can teach draft night and I sat down at a table and it was still covered with tokens and, you know, pack rappers. And, you know, the glamor side of local store judging. I the first thing I was told is you know, what is the local store? Judge do more than anything else push and shares and pick up trash. Um, hopefully, you can teach your player community to police their own trash, but, you know, just little things like that, makes such a difference. We’re a local store judge to be there.

10:19:57 am – Samantha Harr:
I find, that’s definitely true. I used to go around with like the huge glad bags and be like, the Trash Fairy is here. The trash area is here and just haven’t throw things in.

10:20:06 am – You:
Now, I would like, Okay, here’s the

10:20:06 am – Matthew Fox:
Yep.

10:20:08 am – You:
deal. Your trash is going in this box. If it doesn’t go in this box you’re gonna have to walk all the way over to that trash can. So Box.

10:20:19 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, and that’s the things we’re actually. When you do little things like that, You know. I I think local store judging is a great time to be a personality. Um, you know, when you’re talking to 500 players who have all paid a lot of money and are super excited to start their nine, round tournament that’s not necessarily when they want. want. like that, it makes it fun. it makes it fun. I I think local store judging is a I I think local store judging is a great time to be a personality. great time to be a personality. Um, you know, when you’re talking to 500 players, who have all paid a lot of money and are super excited to start their nine, round tournament that’s not necessarily when they want. I’m not saying Make your opening announcements a minute, but like having a little bit of a gag, or a joke or, you know, people knowing that you’re always gonna, you know, say certain things. It’s great because it makes it makes going to that particular store and experience that they’re not gonna get at other stores. And I say, I’m telling me if I’m wrong, I imagine that that’s just gold to a T. O, you know, if they know that people are thinking they want to come to this store in

10:21:00 am – Samantha Harr:
Oh, let’s go.

10:21:01 am – Matthew Fox:
particular,

10:21:01 am – Samantha Harr:
It’s, it is valuable beyond words. Truly, and and that’s something that really helped me sort of come out of my shell. I, you may not believe this. I used to be just painfully painfully shy terrified, to talk to other humans strangers or not. Like and I, you know, one of the

10:21:16 am – Matthew Fox:
Hmm.

10:21:18 am – Samantha Harr:
things that helped me get past that was seeing judges, do their thing and learning that, like, truly putting on your, like carnival barker hat and doing the whole step right up routine. It gets people super jazzed. They’re excited for you. Like you get to be silly, and have fun, and nobody’s expecting you to like, put on a pristine performance. They’re there to have fun with you, you know? And so, you know, I I completely agree. All that is to say, I completely agree that that doing the whole routine, making it a big ordeal to do a show is a ton of fun for everybody.

10:21:56 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think that’s so true. I think that’s where we’re talking about. We’ve talked about F&m magic that’s that’s often gonna be the hardest. Sell some stores might not be ready to pay for that or to you know to pay for that or to you know, and we’re not going to tell you what kind of price to set. But make sure that you’re getting, you know, compensated in some way whether it’s store credit or cash or free entry, whatever it may be. But hardest. to pay for that or to you know to pay for that or to you know, and we’re not going to tell you what kind of price to set. But make sure that you’re getting, you know, compensated in some way whether it’s store credit or cash or free entry, whatever it may be. But hardest. Sell some stores might not be ready because certainly judging his work and we’re not going to tell you what and we’re not going to tell you what But make sure that you’re getting, you know, compensated in some way whether it’s store credit or cash or free entry, whatever it may be. But some stores are gonna walk at that a little bit and someone just pointed that out in the chat, which is a very good point and, you know, so sometimes maybe F&m won’t be the starting point. Pre-release is a great for that special because priorities have great themes. Um, I’ve heard stories from people who did their pre-releases. opening announcements, you know. All right. Forget about it, man. We’re gonna have, you know, just the gangster voice. Or when I proudest moments is a judge, I told the story in an article. So let’s see. If all you yell at me, it means you’re running my reading my articles, which is great. Um, but the in l1 I’ve been training They’re opening announcements, you know. All right. Forget about it, man. We’re gonna have, you know, just the gangster voice. Or when I proudest moments is a judge, I told the story in an article. So let’s see. If all you yell at me, it means you’re running my reading my articles, which is great. Um, but the in l1 I’ve been training and mentoring who’d been so shy came in a full pirate cosplay, for the Excel on release, and did his whole And thing. Isle of Ask? Yes. Yes, scurvy wenches. You’re gonna walk the plank? If you ask for a, um, you know, if you offer something for a, you know, match result, whatever it was, it was hilarious and people still talk about that years later. And I think to me, that’s part of the fun of local store judging is. You get to, you get to have fun with it because you’re really building a community at a local store.

10:23:22 am – Samantha Harr:
Nikola. I’m sure you. You have judged a bajillion Pre-releases and those kind of things. What is your experience been with that?

10:23:28 am – You:
Yeah, so when I, when I was first starting out I judged a ton of Pre-releases actually the one of the first events I judged was, was a prerelease as a level zero and that

10:23:44 am – Samantha Harr:
oh,

10:23:45 am – You:
was amazing because it was just fun, right? I I liked being helpful, I like doing that and As I started going, as I started getting more experience and started running more events, like, Pre-releases were actually my time to kind of, like, faded into the background because I wanted to have other people get those experiences and especially, you know, I am Wisconsin. I was a state captain. When those existed and down in Georgia, I was also, you know, a captain and then and then regional coordinator for a while and it’s just one of those things were like I actually really like popping up and not making people aware that I’m a judge and I do it even now. Just and I just dunks and I went to a game store here. It was the first time we were releasing since pre-pandemic and the first like two prereleases that we played in or at least. Yeah. The first two releases we were playing and just like nobody, we were just players there was no, you know there there was no like kind of, Oh hey, it’s it’s Nicolette and Jess, right? Like and Both of us are level three’s. He’s currently the the Rules manager for Magic at Wizards and, and I have my role with Judge Academy. And so, like the first two, we were just really got to exist in the background and soak in the the excitement and see people being excited about judging their pre-release like the third one, you know, there were like four judges that we knew that were around. And it was like, Hey, how you doing? I’m like, What are you doing here?

10:25:42 am – Samantha Harr:
Don’t blow my cover.

10:25:44 am – You:
Yeah, exactly. I was like, Richard News brunton by blew my cover, um, but no, it’s, I really enjoy pur releases. I used to really like hosting, but as I got more experience, I think that that it’s a great mentoring place, even if you’re a player because you can, you can kind of sit back, enjoy your prerelease and Still see, all the interactions. All the help and it was a great time for mentoring, even if you’re playing

10:26:14 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think that’s really true. Well yeah. I also um I did a pre-release when I was a new L1 but my mentor was

10:26:22 am – You:
but,

10:26:22 am – Matthew Fox:
playing, you know? And so I I could kind of, like, check And so I I could kind of like check playing, you know? And so I I could kind of like check in with them if I needed to and things like that and playing, you know? with them if I needed to and things like that. And releases are so great for that because no one has played with these cards before. A lot of people aren’t gonna understand them. So you’re gonna get a lot of rules calls, but that are also like it’s often gonna be rules calls that that to the player seems really complicated and to you, if you’ve done the homework can be really simple. So it’s a great way to build confidence. If you’re a new judge or if you’re if you’re a mentor to help your mentee build some of that confidence, so I think, yeah, that that’s super important. And I also appreciate nickel that you said Sam and I observe the eye shadow and the outfit a little more on the exercise. You don’t have to be as a judge though. Like you can do the big song and dance. You can also just be the voice of quiet competency of like all right here we are figure out what your style is and also Out what works for the store? judged as a pre-release judge and and realized Oh no, no, my stick is gonna go over. Well here I’m just gonna like, you know, make this work do it. You know a lot of a lot of locals are judging is is reading the room, you know. And but also reading yourself you don’t ever have to be something you’re not um you know I guess judged as a pre-release judge and realized, Oh, no, no, my stick is not gonna go over. Well here I’m just gonna like, you know, make this work, do it. You know, a lot of a lot of locals are judging is is reading the room, know. And but also reading yourself you don’t ever have to be something you’re not, um, you know, make find a way to make it work for you. I think it’s super

10:27:35 am – Samantha Harr:
that’s, that’s one of the reasons I

10:27:35 am – Matthew Fox:
I think it’s super important.

10:27:37 am – Samantha Harr:
think, prerelease, like I could not possibly more further. Harder, recommend pre-release as a starting point when you’re still kind of finding your finding your sea legs and judging because of the repetition,

10:27:49 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:27:49 am – Samantha Harr:
If you have a ton of events going on all day, then you get an opportunity to try things out. Try out a stick And you know if you if you tell a joke and you just get crickets. Well, I mean, you’re gonna be embarrassed and want to crawl under a rock for like the next hour, but the next event that starts up. You try a different joke and that one might land. So now, you know, you know, you don’t have to be stuck with your failures for weeks just till the next event starts.

10:28:17 am – Matthew Fox:
I think that’s super true especially as Pre-releases are often going to have and we’re going to talk about like how you know local stores. I mean any event should be fun but they do some very competitive events and they’re gonna do more. Now is we’re going to be talking Now is we’re going to be talking think a spec like for me as the think a spec like for me as the Um, pre-releases. Um, pre-releases Don’t just do fun event. I mean, any event should be fun, but they do some very competitive events and they’re gonna do more. Now is we’re going to be talking about a second, but pretty releases I think a spec like, for me as the community bar champion, um, Pre-releases I feel like are Are the bread and butter, you know, because they are. And and Sam, I’m curious from Etios perspective, what your side in this, The pre-releases that I’ve seen and talking to other people from all around the world, that’s often the event where stores are gonna get new players or players who maybe come out two or three times a year for the Pre-releases are not else. Um so I feel like that’s often a lot easier case to make to the store from the stores perspective. What what’s the what what is the store looking for from the judge at the pre-release? Why is that a special event for for a store?

10:29:10 am – Samantha Harr:
I think prerelease is the best advertising historic can do I think that and I always found this to be true and in the in the pre-pandemic time we would get people back in there like sardines purposely because i It’s a chance to really show off what you can do, and a really good chance to showcase your community to people, because there are a lot, a lot of players that only come out for Pre-releases, people come out of the woodwork for Pre-releases and the people that Come out of the woodwork do so because they’re hesitant, you know, if they’re not. There, once a week for their favorite format there’s probably a reason for it. They love the game.

10:29:50 am – Matthew Fox:
Mm-hmm.

10:29:50 am – Samantha Harr:
So they’re they’re waiting to be sold. They’re waiting to be sold on the experience and the community and, So they’re waiting to be sold. They’re waiting to be sold on the experience and the community and and Why is this more fun than just hanging out at home and playing online or playing with my two buddies down the street for my friends at work, right? They’re there to be sold on this

10:30:05 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:30:06 am – Samantha Harr:
whole experience. So, give them an experience man. Like, I, I used to be like, I, I used to be of the mindset that frankly, if we didn’t make a lot of money during prerelease based, you know, versus how much we put into pre-release. It really wasn’t that big a deal because we would put on these Grand Prix release shows. And people would just come flooding back for the weekly events, you know, butts and chairs equals money eventually. So even if you don’t get this huge influx of cash

10:30:35 am – Matthew Fox:
He?

10:30:36 am – Samantha Harr:
Immediately If you’ve really invested in this huge experience, people will see that appreciate it, and come back regularly. So you’ll have a more steady regular group of people coming in.

10:30:47 am – You:
Yeah, I think that prereleases are also great time because you’re more likely to try a store. that you may not have have done have gone to before and so if you if you

10:31:02 am – Samantha Harr:
Absolutely.

10:31:04 am – You:
go to a store on Monday night for on Monday night for Monday night, And so if you, if you go to a store on Monday night for on Monday night for Monday night, modern and that’s what you do every week, you’re unlikely to, you know, go out of your way to try a new store, but when you have a prerelease you know, sometimes you wake up and you go oh there was that purely started at 10:00 am? I’m not gonna make that? Is there any place that’s going? That’s gonna do one at 11:00 or noon and you start to like look around that the opportunities. Granted. that’s speaking from a privileged position in the sense that like, there are multiple stores that are running pre-release events, but if you are, if somebody gets excited about something or they want to drive in to go to a pre-release, They’re more willing to take a chance on on, trying out a new experience because that’s kind of what that weekend is about. It’s about trying the new format.

10:31:57 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:31:59 am – You:
It’s, you know, maybe bring somebody that hasn’t played in a store before because it’s two-headed giant which I think is an amazing opportunity for stores to get new new clients and new players in their community. But I think that coming from A sense of Where are you going to get the most new customers? Pre-releases is one of those and if you can get them to come in for pre-release you You might be able to get them to keep coming back.

10:32:32 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think that’s such a good point and especially what both you’re saying about the buttons in the seats and keep coming back because, you know, it some sometimes a judge is also a storm employee and so this is even more true but even if you adjust a judge, you know, you are working you are working for the store to help make their event better. And you’re not supposed to be selling things, and if you are, we negotiate for a, you know, a retail salary. But, but even so, if, if the store realizes that more people come And so this is even more true but even if you adjust a judge, you know, you are working for the store to help make their event better. And you’re not supposed to be selling things, and if you are, we negotiate for a, you know, a retail salary. But, but even so, if, if the store realizes that more people come to And so this is even more true but even if you adjust a judge, you know, you are working for the store to help make their event better. And you’re not supposed to be selling things, and if you are, we negotiate for a, you know, a retail salary. But, but even so if if the store realizes that more people come to events or more people buy things, you know, that’s a good thing and so yeah, you know, I I during a pre-release I’m probably going to make at least one announcement about. Hey, if you’re really enjoying the the set, you know, and want to take some home. They can sell you a box right now, you can’t get anywhere else. Or I forget, I know the rules about pre-release sales, keep changing, but, you know, or even some of them don’t make a deal with the making arrangement with the store owner. Like, Okay, are the manager. Hey, before my third round announcements, do you want to make a quick announcement about Commander to actually have on sale things like that? I want to say one last thing about this before we kind of transition and also hear from both of you on this, we’ve been talking a lot about what to do with a store that doesn’t have judges or maybe doesn’t have judges the event. You want to judge Don’t think though that if you see a judge at the event, that means there’s no place for you because I mean, don’t don’t try to come in and say, like, Oh, I can charge less like you, No no no. But the number of times I’ve talked to a judge and said, Hey, I don’t want to step on any toes, but I would also love to be a judge The reaction you’re often going to get is Wait, I don’t have to judge everything. Someone can take something off my plate. Thank God, you’re here. Like that can be a great conversation. I’m here nicollet. I was all so state captain to his constant long after you. And I heard a lot, you were the bar to be measured again, but in Wisconsin, we had all these great stores. What kind of things did you see from that perspective? In terms of, like, Judges who want who are wanting more judges to come in and help take the load off?

10:34:28 am – You:
Absolutely. I mean, Wisconsin, and and the Atlanta area. Those are, especially around Pptqtime, but even just for Pre-releases, there are a lot of judges coordinating trying to get coverage for the sources. They care about them for and for other stores as well. And I mean there were times where I’ve worked five Pre-releases in a row and having somebody else come in and is, is such a load off and being able to Even just train them even get the help help mentor them especially if they’re newer or if they know what they’re doing. Great like high five tag in like I’ll go out of the ring right? Like There are. It can be really hard as a judge. To let an event go without a judge when you feel like they need one or, and they’re willing to have one, because then somebody mentioned in the, you know, if it’s if if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it right? If you are, if you don’t get to run an event and that event goes without a judge and maybe it goes fine because you’ve built that community to teach them to put their trash away to teach them what to do, right? But there is this mental scare that goes one. You don’t want to leave anybody without a judge and two. You don’t want them to suddenly be like actually we don’t need you. And and so you kind of have this Dilemma where you push yourself farther than you should need to do. Because that’s because nobody else was available. And so you you bend and warp your plans in order to do it. That was one of the things Brian Perlemon used to run the exemplar sphere and one of the things that as somebody who went over nominations the number of nominations that were you know, you did this thing. Nobody else was willing to do and and we needed to be like actually that’s not like like, you know, There’s there’s a bar that is like, is this really a good thing to be pushing to be canceling? Your plans, and driving out two hours on last minute because of X y and C and it can feel you can really feel like you need to do that because

10:43:41 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:43:44 am – You:
difference between an L1 and an L1 that has a competitive RL badge. What’s the difference between an L2 and an L2? That has the side sleep patch or the day to lead? Team lead badge. And so that’s giving me a lot of of hope that as they kind of, you know, I know they’ve had some really busy stuff coming up this last week or so and so Some of that’s still in the future. But it’s really exciting to see talking to all of these toes and letting them know that, you know, not only are we seeing in many cases a commitment to using to using judges or even requiring judges. But also to see areas really wanting to build up the judges in their areas because a lot of the rcs are gonna be local judges. These aren’t you know, they’re big,

10:44:35 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:44:36 am – You:
but they’re not gonna be the same 40 people, moving around to 32 events per year, they’re gonna be like Local Events in Southeast Asia. You can apply to work their events but they’re prioritizing in region judges for their events. And they, you know, they’re because they want to build up their judge community. And so I think that you know, I think you’re gonna start to see other tios follow suit. I’m hoping that more make them, you know, required the ones that we’ve we’ve worked with and have talked to have been really supportive and positive about it for the most part. And I think that’s going to be really exciting to have Tios that are local that have their boots on the ground and are trying to do things to build up their community. And that’s gonna be really important to view.

10:45:36 am – Matthew Fox:
I think that is such good news. I got a couple judges in the shadow, talking about what a big deal that is. Um, especially be, it’s great for the, the bigger events, but also at that local store level, you know, as you’re saying in some cases, there can be required to have judges, in other cases, you know, it might be encouraged and as judges, we know, you know, when magic players have experiences that maybe aren’t the best, they’re generally, not shy about talking about them on social media and Sam, I don’t know if this is your experience, my experience store, owners pay, close attention to that, teos pay close attention to that. And so, when players start going to the qualifying events at stores, that don’t have judges and they may what they may work fine. But often they’re probably problems. Those players are gonna say something and that there’s gonna be knock on effect. There’s a lot I think as we get through the process, you may have a lot of stories that at first, think we don’t need a judge and then then they see what happened to the other store that doesn’t go But often they’re probably problems. Those players are gonna say something and that there’s gonna be knock on effect. There’s a lot I think as we get through the process, you may have a lot of stories that at first, think we don’t need a judge and then then they see what happened to the other store that doesn’t go. And all of a sudden they’re reaching out to you and going. So, Yeah, May 14th. He actually free because maybe we could get a judge in here again. Um,

10:46:40 am – Samantha Harr:
I yeah, I’ve never met a toe. Who started thinking like, I don’t know if I need a judge who kept feeling that way for very long.

10:46:51 am – Matthew Fox:
yeah.

10:46:51 am – Samantha Harr:
If I’m being honest, most of them find out very quick. Um, and India

10:46:55 am – Matthew Fox:
Right.

10:46:56 am – You:
The these events have high stakes.

10:46:59 am – Samantha Harr:
high stakes high standards, high

10:47:00 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:47:01 am – Samantha Harr:
feelings, You know, people, you know people get a lot of feelings on the line about being there, their local champion and stuff. There’s an amount of prestige that comes along with this. That means a lot to a lot of people and I think that that’s reasonable to care about. So, and, and to know that you got that way by being treated, fairly as opposed to you, just happened to know the owner, right?

10:47:21 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:47:22 am – Samantha Harr:
Like that victory is meaningless

10:47:24 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:47:24 am – Samantha Harr:
people want victories and mean something. So anyway, but yes, it to the point about people being very loud and and with their feedback, I think that that’s a great thing. Honestly, it can be, I have certainly found people or quick to express themselves and their feelings about whatever experience they have. And in tournament organizers, as far as I’ve ever experienced, personally tend to follow that very closely, whether it’s, you know, a fussy thread on reddit, or whether it’s like, you know, a yelp review. I, they pay attention to these things and which is not don’t be scared like

10:48:00 am – Matthew Fox:
Mm-hmm.

10:48:01 am – Samantha Harr:
Like, that doesn’t necessarily mean that if you somebody leaves a bad remark that you’re never gonna get hired again. Like, I’ve, you know, I’ve see I’ve seen reviews in my life that are like I got kicked out of this event because I said a homophobic slur and the owner was like That’s the best review I’ve received all day. Let’s keep doing it. Best One Star review, we could possibly get.

10:48:24 am – Matthew Fox:
Mm-hmm.

10:48:24 am – Samantha Harr:
So, you know, they they will make themselves known and it’s, it’s information that the tios will use and will take into consideration when looking to hire judges in the future.

10:48:35 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think that’s so true. And I think, especially because stores are gonna be very well aware of this. And you can if not help remind them, When you have a big event, like in the regional championship qualifier, someone really asked what the rcq was. And I think that’s in different languages, the the acronym at work, but it’s it’s that local short event, that’s going to feed into the regional championship. It’s gonna feed into the pro tour and Players are gonna start like a lot of players. Haven’t played store magic in a long time. This might be the thing that gets players to start coming back to stores. And if they come to your store for the regional championship, qualifier, and they have a great experience, They now might come back for your pre-release or your f&m or at least tell people, Hey, next season, this is gonna be another good place to go for the regional championship qualifier. It’s another great way from the store perspective to get people in seats and then you know the store’s gonna do that with their advertising but we use a judge you is gonna help keep them there. I want to also we’ve got about 12 minutes left so there’s definitely more stuff we can talk about but if people have questions or comments or things they want us to to talk about please definitely start posting them now. I mean there been some great comments we’ve been responding to them but if you got questions this is where the the Q&A part can definitely start. um, one other thing, I just want to

10:49:51 am – You:
Absolutely.

10:49:52 am – Matthew Fox:
quick, say taking off my local store a hat and putting on my the person who approves and and talks to you about your conference requests. Just to echo what Nicolette was saying about how supportive tios are being one of the things we are doing right now, is reaching out to the Tos of all these events on and saying, Hey, we would love to help you do a conference at the, the regional championship or the magic faster or whatever it is. Um, and a number of them were saying to me, Great, we’re already doing that. You know, I think that’s just one more sign of how committed these big deals are to help support and grow the judge communities. Um, and with that, I mentioned that we’ve talked a lot about the Rcqs, but then only like a week or two later, we got another announcement about organized play, which is Magic Fest command fests, which are coming back as well. Um, and those are not necessarily those are gonna be even, probably lesser judge communities. And and the big events are gonna have, you know, more local judges. But, hey, again, great way to support it. But Sam, I don’t know if command if Commander was starting to get big when you were still at Tio. But I, I, my imagining is that as people want to get better at Ender. They want to get better at playing strangers and Commander, not just their kitchen table. They’re gonna want to start going to the Tuesday night command night at a particular store. And so, this is another great opportunity for for stores to get more people in what talk about that from your perspective, especially what what are judges role can be in commander?

10:51:22 am – Samantha Harr:
Commanders is a somewhat tricky format to host, you know, at like a local event night which we I have it every store I’ve worked at. It’s but you know to varying levels of success in how to regulate the fairness of it. Because, and what I have found specifically is that having like Sheets with like a point system like to to promote sportsmanship and fair play and fun decks is a really good way to sort of deal with that. I have not had much experience judging or running cedh, but I find that commander in general is increasing in popularity, everywhere, you know, And it really blew my mind moving to Florida, you know, in DC, when I was up in DC, lots of people liked Commander, it was fine. Um, you’re people are ravenous about commander, it is their life. It is their their whole situation

10:52:15 am – Matthew Fox:
No.

10:52:16 am – Samantha Harr:
Commander is their personality, and I think that’s amazing. I love it. I wouldn’t change a thing about it, but it’s, it’s really cool how those communities can differ from place to place. But I see Commander getting more popular everywhere. So, you know, in a format that relies so heavily on sort of interplayer politics, if you will, I think a judge’s role there can really be to help keep the mood light.

10:52:42 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:52:42 am – Samantha Harr:
Help. Keep it fun. Help. Keep it fair. But like, remind people that they’re playing a game because it, you know, something, please can get a little extra hurt if you know, you know, in a one-on-one game. Well, I’m attacking you because my, you’re my opponent, I can’t attack that guy. He’s not in this game, but in a Commander Pod, You can start feeling a little

10:53:00 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:53:01 am – Samantha Harr:
personal and it probably isn’t, but, you know, feelings are feeling. So, like, being there to sort of help regulate the mood. Keep everybody in good spirits and, and, you know, take taking the punches with, with good spirit, I think is really, really beneficial

10:53:14 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah.

10:53:15 am – Samantha Harr:
for everyone.

10:53:16 am – You:
there’s there are a couple questions in chat that we want to get to, but

10:53:20 am – Matthew Fox:
Mm-hmm.

10:53:20 am – You:
if you are interested, if you are looking at applying to command fests to keep in mind that tomorrow 10 am Pacific, which is the same time we did here. So if whatever time it is for you, right now, um, the same time, this started we’ll be talking to Charlotte stable, stable, if you are interested, if you are looking at applying to command fests to keep in mind that tomorrow 10 am Pacific, which is the same time we did here. So if whatever time it is for you, right now, um, the same time, this started, we’ll be talking to Charlotte stable stable about commander rules. Um, so if you are interested, if you are looking at applying to command fests to keep in mind that tomorrow 10 am Pacific, which is the same time we did here. So if whatever time it is for you, right now, um the same time, this started we’ll be talking to Charlotte stable stable about commander rules. Um, so if you are interested, if you are looking at applying to command fests to keep in mind that tomorrow 10 am Pacific, which is the same time we did here. So if whatever time it is for you, right now, um the same time, this started we’ll be talking to Charlotte stable stable about commander rules. Um, so if you are interested, if you are looking at applying to command fests to keep in mind that tomorrow 10 am Pacific, which is the same time we did here. did here. right now, um the same time this started we’ll be talking to Charlotte stable stable about commander rules um so if you are interested in in commander in hearing more about that and then likewise this whole week is kind of centered around. In-store play large events and getting back to paper magic. So yeah, Wednesday we’re talking to some of the the regional Tos on Thursday. We’re talking about some policy understandings that have come up since in the recent Pella paper tournaments and then Friday We’ve got Jason flatford from Melee.g who’s going to be talking about tournament controller. So we’ve got a ton of stuff going on. There was a question in the chat about a J. A oh, please,

10:54:28 am – Matthew Fox:
Good, good one quick that I think about Commander and then let’s have that question. I was gonna say that the other things from the store perspective. Remember often people play at their own home games and stuff like that. Probably don’t need to judge there but in store or Commander Corner at a, a CG con or whatever, or at magicfest you’re playing against strangers. And so that’s where a lot of that, that interpersonal politics needing a judge to be kind of the, the, you know, the mom and the dad and help keep everyone come. But also, if you’re a rules nerd, if you want corner cases, having four different people have enchantments from a 30 years of magic. All with overlapping effects rules nerds, you can have a lot of fun. All right, now, it’s definitely get to the questions.

10:55:06 am – Samantha Harr:
I’m sorry. I have one one other quick thing to add. I’m so sorry. If you all out there in the audience, haven’t yet had a chance to listen to Charlotte Sable. Talk about commander rules that you are in for such a treat. I Start falling asleep, and like, rolling my eyes if I have to hear too much of that for too long except for Charlotte, I would sit there and listen to her all day just engaged. So if you even if you think, maybe that’s too nitty-gritty for me, please tune in, you will love everything she has to say, she’s a

10:55:33 am – Matthew Fox:
Yep.

10:55:34 am – Samantha Harr:
genius.

10:55:35 am – Matthew Fox:
All right. Now we’ve both stepped on our bosses. She was trying to say important things with the question. Go ahead.

10:55:39 am – You:
No, it’s fine. I just I want to make sure we have. We have room to to answer.

10:55:44 am – Matthew Fox:
Yep.

10:55:46 am – You:
There was a question about adding a JA trifold style, kind of brochure that might be available to to pass out to judges. I think that’s a great idea for also working with the wpn to kind of as they have the opportunity for call to actions in their emails, to also say, You know, bring it up to people as well. And so we’re we’re talking with wpn representatives and, and their trademarketing stuff sama. We’ve actually talked about a trifold brochure about judges before, so, you know, that’s a great thing.

10:56:23 am – Samantha Harr:
I actually have like I have like 20 trifold brochures and my drafts right now that have never seen the light of day but they will eventually

10:56:32 am – Matthew Fox:
I like it, I like it.

10:56:33 am – Samantha Harr:
One day.

10:56:34 am – You:
Yeah.

10:56:36 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I’m just gonna say that. Yeah, we definitely get that but also reach out to other judges, you know, talk to me. And this is where the judge community is all the the chats in the Judge Academy. Discord are so great. Um, because other judges have had these experiences and and the trifolds, I think we’re gonna put out some great things. But also remember trying to find a store in a medium-sized city and Wisconsin versus in, you know, Berlin or a big or Rome or a big city in Europe, versus in a more rural area in, in a small town, in Japan, whatever it is. It’s gonna be so different. And so we’re gonna help you a lot, but also look to your local community because there’s just gonna be different. More days, different ways, these work, how those conversations. And I think it’s one of the great things is, how different it’s gonna be. Um, there’s another question which if you want to go for, I can read.

10:57:22 am – You:
Oh sure. Yeah. So there’s a question about legacy. Who is the the to from Europe? They as far as I know I don’t believe they’ve, they’ve put out information yet. I know that they had a large event that they were trying to focus on before they kind of shifted their focus. But we have talked with them about the importance of judges and they are our committed to for the for the regional championships. They definitely want to use and, and have a require certified judges, as for the Rcqs there, that’s something where I believe they’re going to highly encourage. There are just some areas where that doesn’t work because you’re covering all of Europe, but I think the general idea is to get information out and, you know this, this they’re very interested in understanding the badge, the the badge culture and Understanding what the different certifications mean so that they can kind of both make decisions for their own roles at their events and also pass that knowledge down to the people that are going to be running qualifiers. So I expect to hear from from them as they finish up, I trolled legacy for three weeks on Facebook and still got no reaction probably because you were trolling. No. But but in all serious, they’ve all of the CEOs that we’ve talked to have been so you know, they’re trying to get their feet on the ground as well. And so, Um, I imagine that things are going to change from from wave to wave even within the first season because

10:59:09 am – Matthew Fox:
Yep.

10:59:10 am – You:
there’s just so much to learn the Yellow Rabbit. For example, they’ve got a command fest in like six weeks that they’re trying to plan around and so there’s a lot of pulling priorities and so I

10:59:25 am – Matthew Fox:
No.

10:59:26 am – You:
And so I I think that, you know, when And so I I think that, you know, when priorities. And so I I think that, you know, when they’re when there isn’t information to give out, it can be hard because priorities. they’re when there isn’t information to give out, it can be hard because priorities. And so I I think that, you know, when they’re when there isn’t information to give out, it can be hard because you’re still figuring that information out. I encourage folks to reach out to their their regional tios if they have questions, especially because wizards has been so decentralized in allowing the regional to use to make such strong policy decisions. You know what, what the structure is, what the kits are gonna be like whether or not there’s a judge required, that’s up to the regional t O and they can absolutely. Do it and some regional tios have already started.

11:00:06 am – Matthew Fox:
Now.

11:00:06 am – You:
So you know, So you know, if want to bug the toes right bug the toes. But that’s definitely a thing where there’s a lot going on. And so, you know, I would I would suggest giving them, You know, time to get their feet on there themselves, get their bearings. And I imagine that you’ll see information from all of them fairly soon. I know that there are plenty, that have not announced anything yet. They’re very few that have but some of them are still kind of getting their feet with the details.

11:00:36 am – Matthew Fox:
Yeah, I think that’s key and I think the other things remember is this is a marathon not a sprint. This is not a one-time thing we’re having and as I said Teo’s talk to each other players are gonna let things know and that conversation happens around the world and I my bet would be that the percentage of toos that are requiring judges is going to increase significantly from season to season to season. And the number of stores that are saying, We need a judge is gonna increase from season to season and if not just waved away because so if you don’t get anywhere this first time, okay? Maybe say you’re gonna wait a couple months and let all the conversation happen and, you know, it’s gonna be different different parts of the country, different parts of the world. Some tios are just not gonna be interested in judging right now. I mean some stores are never gonna get a judge for F&m and we, it’s good to be honest about that. But what we’re trying to do is help, give you the idea of ways, you can get the foot in the door ways you can have that conversation. And also ways to know. Okay, this store is an inch in this conversation right now, I’ll talk two different store and maybe that store is gonna be more interested in a couple months. Um, we’re it’s about time to wrap up. So I want to let us each kind of make one final comment and I’ll kind of start with first of all to say that will be a new module coming out about how to make contact with a local store. I don’t want to promise a date on that because I’ve been promising a date to Nicolette for that for a couple weeks, but y’all have so many great ideas for conferences which I’m loving, but it taken a lot of time but we’ll if that module is coming out soon. Um, but also what I was gonna say is if you can When you’re talking to the store about the events, the more you can talk about it in reality instead of the abstract. So if you get the chance, go play a couple f&ms go to their pre-release, see what’s happening without a judge. Um, a lot of judges are mischief goblins, including perhaps one person on this call. Not to name any names. Um, but so, don’t cause problems, but if you just aware, you’re probably gonna notice that it takes some time for the round turnover, or the players are a little salty because no one’s there to help them with rules questions. You don’t want to go to the store. Yeah. Hi, you’re screwing up. Here’s I can help, but be able to have a conversation with them and say, Hey, I saw these kind of things happening. I’d love to be able to help you. Can we have a conversation about that? Um, stores want to know, not just what they, what they can do for you and giving this position, but will you can bring for them? And so the more, you know, about the store, the more, you know about what’s happening there, the matter, you can make that conversation. So samma. Well, do you next, what? What would be your kind of last closing? Word of wisdom.

11:03:07 am – Samantha Harr:
I’m gonna probably just kind of echo some of the thoughts that you had there honestly, like to go go be part of your community. Like go be out there. Be playing be seen talk to people. Be nice to be sociable, be kind. all those things cause like, At the end of the day of somebody’s hesitant Look, maybe a little hesitant about hiring you or making, you know, working something out with you. If you know from a teal perspective, if I see you there every week and I know you I’m a lot more interested to hear what you have to say than somebody that comes in and it’s like I’m a Level Two judge you should you’re doing all this wrong. So you should hire me. I’m like Who are you? Scared. Yeah. Build relationships. These things. All matter, a whole ton. So yes go out there and be a regular fixture in your local community.

11:03:53 am – Matthew Fox:
Definitely. Nicolette.

11:03:57 am – You:
Oh yeah. I guess closing statement for local store judging and organized play. I am so excited for for just the organized play landscape and what it’s what it’s getting evolved into and the ability for People to be making decisions that are right for their community. That’s something that I’ve always really wanted. That’s the one of the hardest parts about having a global community is that when you’re dealing with global policies and procedures, sometimes it’s hard to account for everything and I think this is one of the best

11:04:37 am – Matthew Fox:
Hmm.

11:04:37 am – You:
opportunities. And if you can use these opportunities to grow yourself as a judge or grow another judge, that’s Amazing. And I’m really excited for these events.

11:04:51 am – Matthew Fox:
I’m so glad you close with that because also, you know, in store play is returning in part because in some parts of the world, it is now safer to do. So still, of course, pay attention to local things. It may not be ready in your area minute wherever your player base, pay attention all that. But most importantly, just if you care about local store, judging, a lot of doors are opening up and I really hope this has been a good opportunity. And, you know, if you want to continue the conversation, you can find us all the ways online to go to Academy. Website, feedback questions at Judge Academy.com, You can hit me Matthew, Judge Academy.com because I love talking about this, and most importantly, I just want to say, a huge. Thanks nicollet and a sama for jumping in last minute. We’re definitely get make Rick and back sometime. I know she would have so much more out of this conversation, but to the two of you for jumping in last minute, thank you so much to all of our people chiming in, with a questions or just your commenting. Listening. Thank you all so much and I’ll hit my mic. Thank you all so much. You’re really makes this world brother and just thanks a lot. Have a great day.